The Dude

What I want to know if someone who rooted the phone and plans to sell the phone after a few months, will the buyer be able to find out if the phone was rooted or not?

I mean the buyer may end up buying a phone with no warranty.

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回復 21# The Dude

If the buyer knows what root/unlock is, yes it's very obvious to them.  Every time when you turn on the unlocked phone, you'll see an opened lock icon on your splash screen. It'll stay there for about 10 to 15 seconds.

archy

我覺得呢,
我覺得呢,
保養條款係銷售合約既其中一部份, 只要條款同合約冇寫明 root 機或類似行為會導致保養失效, 就無需要自己去 "假設" 有相關既限制.
而有人提到 root 機個時會有提示話 root 左會冇保, 我覺得除非開發 root 程式既人係代表電話賣方, 或者係 佢地既員工, 否則個提示極其量只係一個免責條款, 等使用者不得因為佢地既電話商唔提供保養而向佢申索.  至於 root 既開發者因為既非電話賣方代表, 又非佢地員工, 所以佢話用左 root 程式之後會冇左保養定有叉燒飯送, 都唔關電話商事.
ccrackerjack 發表於 2010-2-1 09:06

心水清 , 呢個亦係其中一個 point

唔似某 d 友仔人云亦云以為自己好岩
連少少討論空間都假定係無

archy

What I want to know if someone who rooted the phone and plans to sell the phone after a few months, will the buyer be able to find out if the phone was rooted or not?

I mean the buyer may end up buying a phone with no warranty.
The Dude 發表於 2010-2-1 09:24

其實唔止係買二手
連買一手都係 , 如果要 user 知道 rooted = 無保
即係假定 user 買機時候要知道 , 清楚咩叫 rooted phone
但假定如此 , 就變成要客戶去承擔呢個責任

如果一買返黎已經係一台 rooted phone 又點 ??
廠方如何證明部機到客手之前唔係一台 rooted phone ??
唔好忘記 , 由部機出廠到客手係經過幾多手人開著過部機....

除非廠方有方法證明手機到客戶手上之前肯定沒有任何人可以掂到部機
如果唔係 , 又點證明係客戶過失 ?? 證明唔到客戶過失又點 void 保養 ?

sungcharming

其實唔止係買二手
連買一手都係 , 如果要 user 知道 rooted = 無保
即係假定 user 買機時候要知道 , 清楚 ...
archy 發表於 2010-2-1 10:12

你咁講真係無得講ga wor... 好多產品由生廠商到零售商中間都經過好多唔同既運輸公司/代理等, 有d (好似SMV)會幫milestone預裝自家apps, 如果出問題行唔保你可以去找smv
如果好似你咁既假設, 咁消費者應該去告零售商. 又或者消費者有實質證據證明手機出廠時已root 咁佢都可以告廠商o者, 大前提係你要有證據

mcflurry

我手上只有N1, Milestone 我唔知，不過我估差唔多。

其實你搞到去UNLOCK 個畫面，已經有WARNING 警售左USER, 話左比你聽，一UNLOCK 你就冇保，所以呢個責任我個人認為屬於END USER 多於廠商。
人地提左你，你都繼續做，咁冇保好正常呀。

黑宙斯

咁如果唔root,係咪install既software都只可以裝係部機度
而唔可以install係張卡呀?

eddy

我覺得呢,
保養條款係銷售合約既其中一部份, 只要條款同合約冇寫明 root 機或類似行為會導致保養失效, 就無 ...
ccrackerjack 發表於 2010-2-1 09:06

    http://www.motorola.com/staticfi ... _68004114004_v1.pdf

User Manual P.46 已經用express term 寫左" Accordingly, any copyrighted software
contained in Motorola products may not be modified, reverse—engineered,
distributed or reproduced in any manner to the extent allowed by law."

http://www.android.com/terms.html

10. License from Google

10.1 Google gives you a personal, worldwide, royalty-free, non-assignable and non-exclusive licence to use the software provided to you by Google as part of the Services as provided to you by Google (referred to as the “Software” below). This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling you to use and enjoy the benefit of the Services as provided by Google, in the manner permitted by the Terms.
10.2 You may not (and you may not permit anyone else to) copy, modify, create a derivative work of, reverse engineer, decompile or otherwise attempt to extract the source code of the Software or any part thereof, unless this is expressly permitted or required by law, or unless you have been specifically told that you may do so by Google, in writing.
10.3 Unless Google has given you specific written permission to do so, you may not assign (or grant a sub-licence of) your rights to use the Software, grant a security interest in or over your rights to use the Software, or otherwise transfer any part of your rights to use the Software.

Open Source system 唔代理冇使用條款..................唔知Ching點睇?

eddy

回復 24# archy


    我諗你睇返自己呢段野都會笑

eddy

你咁講真係無得講ga wor... 好多產品由生廠商到零售商中間都經過好多唔同既運輸公司/代理等, 有d (好似SM ...
sungcharming 發表於 2010-2-1 10:28

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