lgm1234

用過2支 benz 嗰隻, 不過好似無乜分別..

PPLd

想洗油路個人建議直接入貴油就好
自己加的話 最怕濃度太高有可能整壞架車

仲有而家唔少新機器都係 ...
kanduki 發表於 2015-5-7 19:59

My car is direct injection.
However, the user manual still says:
我的車是直接噴注。
然而，用戶手冊說：

Mercedes-Benz recommends that you use fuel brands that have additives.
The quality of the fuel available in some countries may not be sufficient. Residue could build up as a result. In such cases, and in consultation with a Mercedes-Benz Service Centre, the petrol may be mixed with the cleaning additive recommended by Mercedes-Benz (part no. A000989254512). You must observe the notes and mixing ratios specified on the container.

I am not saying the quality of fuel in HK is no good.
Just it is still advisable to use additives and factory do say they work, even for direct injection.
They can wash the fuel injectors etc.
我不是說香港的燃料質量白搭。
只是工廠仍是建議使用添加劑，和也說他們工作甚至直接噴注。
它們可以洗燃料噴射器等

By the way, be ware of fake ones found in TB with a blue bottle.
There is only 1 version made by MB, shown below:
順便說一句，提防TB上找到藍色假的。
MB只有1個版本，如下圖所示：

PPLd

用過2支 benz 嗰隻, 不過好似無乜分別..
lgm1234 發表於 2015-5-7 20:54

The original Mercedes Benz fuel additive is OEM-ed by BASF.
The main effective ingredient of MB fuel additive is "polyisobuteneamine", which is a cheaper alternative of "polyetheramine" used in Techron, 3M or Redline.
平治的燃料添加劑是OEM-ed　由BASF。
MB燃料添加劑的主要有效成分是“polyisobuteneamine”，這是在TECHRON，3M或紅線所用的“聚醚”的更便宜的替代方案。

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Based on the original Chevron and other lab tests and field study,
Polyetheramine in the bottle should be between 30% and 50%
30% was needed to significantly remove deposits and no further improvement was seen after 50%.
The improvement from 30 to 50 was not linear.
在雪佛龍和其他實驗室測試和現場考察的基礎上，
聚醚在瓶子內應介乎於30％和50％
顯著除去存款是需要的30％ (holy crap I dont want my money gone )，並在50％後沒有看到進一步提升了。
而從30至50的改進，不是線性的。

Redline contains exactly this 30-50% polyetheramine.
3M Extra Strength contains 60% so it is no better than their own standard one.
紅線恰好包含這30％-50％聚醚。
3M特強 含有60％所以它並不比他們自己的標準更好。

backspace-hk

The original Mercedes Benz fuel additive is OEM-ed by BASF.
The main effective ingredient of MB fu ...
PPLd 發表於 2015-5-8 07:33

咁係咪3M多料啲好用啲?

Advanced Ivan

The original Mercedes Benz fuel additive is OEM-ed by BASF.
The main effective ingredient of MB fu ...
PPLd 發表於 2015-5-8 07:33

> 3M extra strength contains 60% so it is worse than the standard one.
落少D咪得囉??

PPLd

咁係咪3M多料啲好用啲?
backspace-hk 發表於 2015-5-8 09:35

30-50% concentration is the best.
Just like alcohol, 70-75% is the best, as 95% alcohol cant kill bacteria more effectively.
30-50％的濃度是最佳的。
就像酒精，70-75％是最好的，因為95％的酒精不能更有效殺死細菌。

PPLd

> 3M extra strength contains 60% so it is worse than the standard one.
落少D咪得囉??
Advanced Ivan 發表於 2015-5-8 10:24

A fuel system cleaner also contains other ingredients.
Would cutting the 3M Extra Strength in half mean other ingredients are not enough?
Maybe thats why MB suggest user to follow the dilution ratio for each product.
燃油系統清潔劑中還含有其他成分。
將3M特強切一半意味著其他成分不夠？
也許這就是為什麼MB建議用戶遵循比例稀釋每個產品。

Besides, this bottle of 3M Extra Strength is also more expensive.
I can buy 2 bottles of Redline, Techron or even 3M Standard Strength which work simple and good.
I guess 3M Extra Strength is not for every car...
此外，這瓶3M特強也比較昂貴。
我可以買2瓶紅線，TECHRON，甚至3M標準，簡單又表現良好。
我猜3M特強不是每台車都適合...

lgm1234

都有興趣試下 Redline, 而家賣幾錢? Thanks

backspace-hk

A fuel system cleaner also contains other ingredients.
Would cutting the 3M Extra Strength in half ...
PPLd 發表於 2015-5-8 11:32

從來無諗過用衣D Cleaner，去成日話自己用TECHRON既加得快入 1-2缸油就當係 clean 左。

PPLd

都有興趣試下 Redline, 而家賣幾錢? Thanks
lgm1234 發表於 2015-5-8 16:54

I saw it on sale for $118.