作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-20 09:45 標題: AMD Phoenix 有測試
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqrw9cGA6QU
ASUS TUF A15
試淨行 780m 都打到機
部機本身有 RTX 4060, 行 Zen 4
作者: shal 時間: 2023-4-20 10:19
680M 已打到la
780M 仲要勁過680m點會唔得
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-20 10:31
680M 已打到la
780M 仲要勁過680m點會唔得
shal 發表於 2023-4-20 10:19
680m 大部分行 720p
喱次 780m 行到 1080p
作者: raylee 時間: 2023-4-20 10:52
680m 大部分行 720p
喱次 780m 行到 1080p
mlyu 發表於 2023-4-20 10:31
battery last ?hr if gaming in 780m
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-20 11:32
等am5版
作者: shal 時間: 2023-4-20 13:09
680m 大部分行 720p
喱次 780m 行到 1080p
mlyu 發表於 2023-4-20 10:31
我有好多game 行1080 都ok wo
作者: kofz 時間: 2023-4-20 13:15
ASUS TUF A15
試淨行 780m 都打到機
部機本身有 RTX 4060, 行 Zen 4
mlyu 發表於 2023-4-20 09:45
等新掌機
傳說中既rog唔知係咪zen4.....
via HKEPC IR Extreme 4.2.3 - Android(4.2.0)
作者: longleg 時間: 2023-4-20 14:00
ASUS TUF A15
試淨行 780m 都打到機
部機本身有 RTX 4060, 行 Zen 4
mlyu 發表於 2023-4-20 09:45
好勁. 1080 已經被攻破.
如果只set 1080 係唔係第日打機都唔駛買display card?
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-20 14:08
好勁. 1080 已經被攻破.
如果只set 1080 係唔係第日打機都唔駛買display card?
longleg 發表於 2023-4-20 14:00
嚟緊暑假換機潮可以五六千蚊買到輕/中度打機 laptop
作者: usei 時間: 2023-4-20 15:14
回覆 9# mlyu
低一點的 U 個 igpu 就縮水
要 12 CU 未必咁平買到
作者: longleg 時間: 2023-4-20 19:32
嚟緊暑假換機潮可以五六千蚊買到輕/中度打機 laptop
mlyu 發表於 2023-4-20 14:08
最衰黎緊部thinkpad E16 只有 7030
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-21 07:37
最衰黎緊部thinkpad E16 只有 7030
longleg 發表於 2023-4-20 19:32
Thinkpad公司用多唔俾你打機
唔知批7020咩情況
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-21 07:40
回覆 mlyu
低一點的 U 個 igpu 就縮水
要 12 CU 未必咁平買到
usei 發表於 2023-4-20 15:14
今次Ryzen 5 phoenix igpu 都係 cut 1/3, 冇上代 cut 一半咁慘
作者: kcthomlau 時間: 2023-4-21 08:51
今代7845HX有積熱問題？低負載都積熱？
6：00
[youtube]wDA0WxTSGw0[/youtube]
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-21 08:54
今代7845HX有積熱問題？低負載都積熱？
6：00
kcthomlau 發表於 2023-4-21 08:51
7845HX 係 desktop zen 4 改喎, 唔係 RDNA3, 行 chiplet, cache 大
同 Phoenix APU 有唔同呀, 要等 Phoenix 正式出先
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-21 22:18
回覆 14# kcthomlau
大家對積熱嘅理解有啲唔同
& Dragon Range ≠ Pheonix
作者: 剋星 時間: 2023-4-22 02:10
好勁. 1080 已經被攻破.
如果只set 1080 係唔係第日打機都唔駛買display card?
longleg 發表於 2023-4-20 14:00
我用緊粒4700u 都已經好夠打機
作者: usei 時間: 2023-4-22 11:37
好勁. 1080 已經被攻破.
如果只set 1080 係唔係第日打機都唔駛買display card?
longleg 發表於 2023-4-20 14:00
靠 FSR 有望更高 fps
如果 14 代核顯有 XeSS
不夠力行光追的獨顯有望減價
當核顯夠力行 1080P60 自然不會出高價買行 1080P144 的卡
作者: dom 時間: 2023-4-22 21:26
用 X13 G3 PRO 6850U (680M) 都打到唔少game 了
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-23 01:17
咁其實CPU performance 係點先？
iGPU 都預咗同 6800H 差唔多嫁啦
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-23 01:41
咁其實CPU performance 係點先？
iGPU 都預咗同 6800H 差唔多嫁啦
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-23 01:17 AM
Zen3上Zen4咁多囉
780M iGPU再快一級喎
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-23 11:07
咁其實CPU performance 係點先？
iGPU 都預咗同 6800H 差唔多嫁啦
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-23 01:17
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/com ... -AMD-Ryzen-7-7840HS
Passmark
7735H: 25496
7840HS: 28429
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-23 11:29
本帖最後由 ~Mars~ 於 2023-4-23 22:43 編輯
Zen3上Zen4咁多囉
780M iGPU再快一級喎
nelsonlee130 發表於 2023-4-23 01:41
GPU 快15% 唔會爭幾遠，CPU single thread 快15% 就真係爭兩代，Intel Ivybridge 到Raptor Lake 十幾年都只係Rocket Lake -> Alder Lake 先有>15% ST improvement
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-23 11:30
Passmark
7735H: 25496
7840HS: 28429
mlyu 發表於 2023-4-23 11:07
Thanks
作者: Miipp 時間: 2023-4-23 22:42
GPU 快15% 唔會爭幾遠，CPU single thread 快15% 就真係爭兩代，Intel Ivybridge 到Raptor Lake 十幾年都 ...
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-23 11:29
精四 single thread 無快過精三加 15% 吧?
同埋精四新 U base clk/TB clk 高頻 d, 部份效能提升係拉升 clk 得到的
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-23 22:48
精四 single thread 無快過精三加 15% 吧?
同埋精四新 U base clk/TB clk 高頻 d, 部份效能提升係拉升 ...
Miipp 發表於 2023-4-23 22:42
所以先要實測
Freq/V curve 同Cezanne/Rembrandt都可能唔同
睇desktop SKU 狗估無意思
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-23 22:52
Phoenix 直上n4 仲要monolithic die
根本唔駛狗估都知power:perf 一定好過desktop
作者: kcthomlau 時間: 2023-4-24 13:15
Phoenix 直上n4 仲要monolithic die
根本唔駛狗估都知power:perf 一定好過desktop
nelsonlee130 發表於 2023-4-23 14:52
性能的確勁，等睇埋續航
作者: rcbananahk 時間: 2023-4-26 13:21
回覆 23# ~Mars~
個人選擇唔同
有人會打機 覺得IGPU 勁就得 CPU 唔駛勁
作者: usei 時間: 2023-4-26 14:17
本帖最後由 usei 於 2023-4-26 14:26 編輯
GPU 快15% 唔會爭幾遠，CPU single thread 快15% 就真係爭兩代，Intel Ivybridge 到Raptor Lake 十幾年都 ...
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-23 11:29
notebook 低電單線加得最勁是 4 系同 11 代
因為上一代好慢
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-26 15:51
今晚華碩出新天選4，用 7940H + NV 4050/4060/4070
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-27 00:26
本帖最後由 ~Mars~ 於 2023-4-27 00:28 編輯
TUF A15 7940HS+RTX4050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YM7gxGqmt4
[attach]2370031[/attach]
[attach]2370034[/attach]
[attach]2370033[/attach]
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-27 00:38
Phoenix 直上n4 仲要monolithic die
根本唔駛狗估都知power:perf 一定好過desktop
nelsonlee130 發表於 2023-4-23 22:52
所有laptop perf/watt 都好過desktop 架啦
就係想睇下今代APU AMD 點取捨啫
上一代 Alder Lake H/P 效能贏晒Zen 3但係功耗唔多掂
Raptor Lake幾乎無任何改進，如果Zen 4 APU 維持到Zen 3低功耗而效能追到Alder Lake，咁就肯定揀Zen 4
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-27 00:41
上一代 Alder Lake H/P 效能贏晒Zen 3但係功耗唔多掂
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-27 12:38 AM
P ~50w樓下效能釋放輸到狗彩喎? 平衡世界?
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-27 01:07
P ~50w樓下效能釋放輸到狗彩喎? 平衡世界?
nelsonlee130 發表於 2023-4-27 00:41
同你講都晒氣，Lightly-threaded load 上到50W? 你買H series CPU 長期唔插電用？
Zen 3 最大優勢係慳電，但唔係萬能
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-27 01:09
同你講都晒氣
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-27 01:07 AM
大家咁話
散熱唔駛成本有你D咁嘅用家唔怪之煙癌敢出百幾W粒"mobile" U
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-27 01:36
本帖最後由 ~Mars~ 於 2023-4-27 01:37 編輯
大家咁話散熱唔駛成本
有你D咁嘅用家唔怪之煙癌敢出百幾W粒"mobile" U ...
nelsonlee130 發表於 2023-4-27 01:09
1T 2T load 點上到50W 呀
你淨係睇synthetic test 唔考慮實際使用環境？
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-27 01:43
同你講都晒氣
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-27 01:07 AM
Conditional到咁, 唔爭在加多個"你買H series CPU長期Lightly-threaded load?"
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-27 11:02
今次原來中國版叫 7940H, 非中國版叫 7940HS
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-27 11:29
本帖最後由 nelsonlee130 於 2023-4-27 11:30 編輯
回覆 39# mlyu
陸媒都話"全球"喎
宏碁全球抢发AMD锐龙9 7940H笔记本
Acer官網
https://news.acer.com/acer-launches-new-swift-x-16-laptop-with-amd-ryzen-7040-series-processors-and-nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-series-gpus
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-27 13:13
回覆 mlyu
陸媒都話"全球"喎
Acer官網
nelsonlee130 發表於 2023-4-27 11:29
唔知係咪有唔同啦
[attach]2370094[/attach]
[attach]2370095[/attach]
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-27 13:29
回覆 41# mlyu
咁攪笑
作者: allen05073003 時間: 2023-4-27 22:17
同你講都晒氣，Lightly-threaded load 上到50W? 你買H series CPU 長期唔插電用？
Zen 3 最大優 ...
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-27 01:07
信錯晒你地，買左部intel laptop.
成日話E core 一樣，但e core 明明係垃圾
開幾個excel, chrome tab, chemdraw 就開始lag到癲.
早知唔要touch, 唔買intel...
之前個部AMD讓左比屋企人
明明唔會lag
via HKEPC Reader for Android
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-27 22:26
信錯晒你地，買左部intel laptop.
成日話E core 一樣，但e core 明明係垃圾
開幾個excel, chrome tab, ch ...
allen05073003 發表於 2023-4-27 22:17
你買咗邊部?
我就一直等緊 AMD 出
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-27 22:29
回覆 43# allen05073003
經一事蔡一智
作者: usei 時間: 2023-4-28 16:54
你買咗邊部?
我就一直等緊 AMD 出
mlyu 發表於 2023-4-27 22:26
低電一定 AMD 例如 5800U 6800U
因為好多廠行 25W
intel 多數行 15W
作者: oneisall 時間: 2023-4-28 17:36
唔知係咪有唔同啦
mlyu 發表於 2023-4-27 13:13
AMD EXPO™ Memory Overclocking Technology
作者: mlyu 時間: 2023-4-28 17:42
AMD EXPO™ Memory Overclocking Technology
oneisall 發表於 2023-4-28 17:36
喺 laptop 度唔知有幾大作用啦
作者: ~Mars~ 時間: 2023-4-29 00:26
Conditional到咁, 唔爭在加多個"你買H series CPU長期Lightly-threaded load?"
nelsonlee130 發表於 2023-4-27 01:43
係人都想部notebook 又輕又長氣又勁，到你真係要靠部PC搵食先好講呢啲風涼話。"Conditional" ? 到今時今日都仲有大把workload 都係bottle-necked by ST performance.
RVT 2020 - Full_Standard set - 2023.01.18 @ 00.49.16 on HOME-DESKTOP.txt
RFO Benchmark v3.3 (build 30.07.2020)
RevitForum.org
All times are in seconds, lower is better.
Run on Revit 2020.2.3
_________________________________________________________________
Update
8.60 update previous version file
_________________________________________________________________
Model creation benchmark
4.17 opening and loading the custom template
10.13 creating the floors levels and grids
13.87 creating a group of walls and doors
23.82 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
8.91 creating the exterior curtain wall
8.01 creating the sections
2.95 changing the curtain wall panel type
11.29 creating area plans
1.60 creating and applying view template
84.75 TOTAL
_________________________________________________________________
Export benchmark
47.86 export all views as PNGs at 300 dpi
42.26 export all views as DWFs
67.74 export all views as DWGs
49.01 print all views as vector *
73.91 print all views as raster *
Notes:
* Print Views tests require the 'Microsoft XPS Document Writer' printer be installed.
_________________________________________________________________
Render benchmark
51.04 render
_________________________________________________________________
Graphics - Standard View
4.61 activate View Styles view
0.33 change view to Wireframe
0.55 change view to Hidden
0.71 change view to Shaded
0.72 change view to Consistent Colors
1.17 change view to Realistic
0.55 refresh Wireframe Line view x10
2.36 refresh Hidden Line view x10
2.48 refresh Shaded view x10
2.38 refresh Consistent Colors view x10
2.57 refresh Realistic view x10
0.32 activate View Cube view
2.19 rotate view x1
20.94 TOTAL
Notes:
Graphics benchmark measures the entire graphics stack, which includes CPU and memory.
To meaningfully compare graphics cards, test all cards in the same machine
and use the 'Graphics - expanded' benchmark.
TEST CONDITIONS:
_______________________________________________________
Mfr: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Model: MS-7A40
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (build 2009)
_______________________________________________________
CPU0: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor
Max Clock Speed: 3.701Ghz
Physical Processors: 6
Logical Processors: 12
Total Physical Memory: 64GB
P0 CHANNEL A: 32GB @ 3200Mhz
P0 CHANNEL B: 32GB @ 3200Mhz
_______________________________________________________
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
Graphics RAM: 3.9990234375GB
Driver version: 31.0.15.1694
Screen Resolution: 3440 x 1440 x bit @ 120Hz (max 144Hz)
DPI Scaling: 100%
_______________________________________________________
Drive Type: Local Disk (NTFS)
Drive Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB
RAW DATA:
_________________________________________________________________
9.385 8.212 8.214 update previous version file
4.188 4.151 4.182 opening and loading the custom template
10.267 10.027 10.081 creating the floors levels and grids
13.745 13.927 13.932 creating a group of walls and doors
24.046 23.602 23.801 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
8.906 8.852 8.972 creating the exterior curtain wall
7.997 7.946 8.079 creating the sections
2.952 2.937 2.962 changing the curtain wall panel type
11.327 11.257 11.274 creating area plans
1.595 1.611 1.588 creating and applying view template
47.841 48.058 47.692 export all views as PNGs at 300 dpi
41.933 42.536 42.307 export all views as DWFs
64.898 73.458 64.849 export all views as DWGs
47.364 52.369 47.284 print all views as vector
72.107 77.297 72.334 print all views as raster
48.835 55.819 48.472 render
4.957 4.418 4.463 activate View Styles view
0.337 0.332 0.326 change view to Wireframe
0.563 0.543 0.543 change view to Hidden
0.701 0.711 0.724 change view to Shaded
0.722 0.736 0.709 change view to Consistent Colors
1.191 1.154 1.153 change view to Realistic
0.545 0.551 0.544 refresh Wireframe Line view x10
2.340 2.371 2.356 refresh Hidden Line view x10
2.472 2.494 2.488 refresh Shaded view x10
2.368 2.392 2.382 refresh Consistent Colors view x10
2.562 2.575 2.580 refresh Realistic view x10
0.324 0.313 0.316 activate View Cube view
2.196 2.191 2.171 rotate view x1
RVT 2020 - Full_Standard set - 2022.11.27 @ 13.36.01 on LAPTOP-DASHF15.txt
RFO Benchmark v3.3 (build 30.07.2020)
RevitForum.org
All times are in seconds, lower is better.
Run on Revit 2020.2.3
_________________________________________________________________
Update
7.48 update previous version file
_________________________________________________________________
Model creation benchmark
4.02 opening and loading the custom template
9.06 creating the floors levels and grids
11.83 creating a group of walls and doors
19.07 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
7.46 creating the exterior curtain wall
6.68 creating the sections
2.46 changing the curtain wall panel type
9.55 creating area plans
1.24 creating and applying view template
71.37 TOTAL
_________________________________________________________________
Export benchmark
42.31 export all views as PNGs at 300 dpi
36.81 export all views as DWFs
53.86 export all views as DWGs
35.57 print all views as vector *
69.26 print all views as raster *
Notes:
* Print Views tests require the 'Microsoft XPS Document Writer' printer be installed.
_________________________________________________________________
Render benchmark
56.99 render
_________________________________________________________________
Graphics - Standard View
4.18 activate View Styles view
0.31 change view to Wireframe
0.50 change view to Hidden
0.60 change view to Shaded
0.59 change view to Consistent Colors
1.06 change view to Realistic
0.51 refresh Wireframe Line view x10
1.85 refresh Hidden Line view x10
1.96 refresh Shaded view x10
1.87 refresh Consistent Colors view x10
2.04 refresh Realistic view x10
0.25 activate View Cube view
1.72 rotate view x1
17.44 TOTAL
Notes:
Graphics benchmark measures the entire graphics stack, which includes CPU and memory.
To meaningfully compare graphics cards, test all cards in the same machine
and use the 'Graphics - expanded' benchmark.
TEST CONDITIONS:
_______________________________________________________
Mfr: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Model: ASUS TUF Dash F15 FX517ZE_FX517ZE
OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-bit (build 2009)
_______________________________________________________
CPU0: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12450H
Max Clock Speed: 2Ghz
Physical Processors: 8
Logical Processors: 12
Total Physical Memory: 64GB
BANK 0: 32GB @ 4800Mhz
BANK 0: 32GB @ 4800Mhz
_______________________________________________________
Graphics Card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics
Graphics RAM: 1GB
Driver version: 30.0.101.1631
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080 x bit @ 144Hz (max 144Hz)
DPI Scaling: 100%
_______________________________________________________
Drive Type: Local Disk (NTFS)
Drive Model: NVMe SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HBLB-00B00
RAW DATA:
_________________________________________________________________
8.270 7.133 7.043 update previous version file
4.070 3.996 3.980 opening and loading the custom template
9.301 9.004 8.887 creating the floors levels and grids
11.926 11.832 11.746 creating a group of walls and doors
19.121 19.098 18.996 modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
7.500 7.402 7.480 creating the exterior curtain wall
6.723 6.691 6.621 creating the sections
2.480 2.430 2.473 changing the curtain wall panel type
9.523 9.457 9.684 creating area plans
1.199 1.223 1.297 creating and applying view template
42.449 42.254 42.230 export all views as PNGs at 300 dpi
36.941 36.738 36.758 export all views as DWFs
55.109 53.227 53.230 export all views as DWGs
35.688 35.719 35.301 print all views as vector
69.082 69.922 68.773 print all views as raster
56.566 57.398 57.000 render
4.172 4.188 4.172 activate View Styles view
0.316 0.305 0.301 change view to Wireframe
0.488 0.508 0.508 change view to Hidden
0.609 0.598 0.594 change view to Shaded
0.582 0.586 0.606 change view to Consistent Colors
1.078 1.062 1.027 change view to Realistic
0.504 0.516 0.516 refresh Wireframe Line view x10
1.836 1.852 1.852 refresh Hidden Line view x10
1.949 1.973 1.957 refresh Shaded view x10
1.856 1.883 1.883 refresh Consistent Colors view x10
2.035 2.051 2.047 refresh Realistic view x10
0.258 0.254 0.250 activate View Cube view
1.738 1.742 1.680 rotate view x1
71s vs 84s, desktop 5600X PBO +200Mhz 都慢過閹割版12450H 差唔多兩成。
作者: nelsonlee130 時間: 2023-4-29 00:33
本帖最後由 nelsonlee130 於 2023-4-29 00:34 編輯
係人都想部notebook 又輕又長氣又勁，到你真係要靠部PC搵食先好講呢啲風涼話。"Conditional" ? 到今時今日 ...
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-29 12:26 AM
同你講都晒氣
~Mars~ 發表於 2023-4-27 01:07 AM
你要極端到搵autodesk嘅野黎比, 真係司馬X之心, 我咪繼續用你句說話還返俾你囉
全世界得你一個用電腦搵食, 完, 滿意?
煙真係為你嘅workload度身訂造, 食煙啦
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你買咗邊部?
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配 4060 都係 rmb7799
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