作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 09:11 標題: Sony A7s III
今日announce, 大家有咩期待?
我自己唔會買A7s
但佢好似有個新 menu system
- Completely new menu with full touch support.
- The smallest rolling shutter effect in the world.
- Huge viewfinder with the ability to reduce the field of view of images, for people wearing glasses.
- The 16-bit raw info applies to recording in movie mode (and not just photos) to an external recorder.
- The Sony a7siii will have a passive cooling heat sink type system probably made of aluminum (copper, alloy or stainless steel are other options) similar to those used in the Raspberry Pi B board.
- Apparently in Europe the camera will start shipping out in September.
即係A7iv 都會有

作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 09:16
反而期待C兄用咩機同放D相俾小弟欣賞下.
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 09:24
呢度要show quali先可以出post?
Ok
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 09:43
回覆 3# goshigoo
唔通想欣賞下人D作品都有問題咩?.問下啫.
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 09:46
呢個post講A7s III.....
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 10:12
呢部機都未出, 有咩可以欣賞?
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 10:14
回覆 6# KinChungE
又係喎...

作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 10:14
回覆 5# goshigoo
咁當我冇講過.
作者: usei 時間: 2020-7-28 11:25
用拍片機影相
4K 未代機吸引力有限
新機來說我最需要 eye AF 同 HEIF
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 11:32
回覆 9# usei
EYE AF,依家都唔係咩新科技了.
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 12:35
問題係 A7s II 仲用緊史前Contrast Detect AF, 廢到不能呢
今次A7s III有4k60 + Phase-detect AF已經足以令好多人心郁郁
作者: ahshing 時間: 2020-7-28 12:49
本帖最後由 ahshing 於 2020-7-28 12:50 編輯
收到德國既press release:
Almost five years after the Alpha 7S II, Sony launched the successor: The Alpha 7S III has an improved 12-megapixel sensor, records 4K at 120p and is said to achieve exceptional results in low-light photography thanks to large pixels. As with the Alpha 7S II, the sensor of the Alpha 7S III has a resolution of 12 megapixels, but is now exposed on the back.
At the heart of the new Alpha is a 12 megapixel full-frame sensor that has been improved compared to the Alpha 7S II. Sony is now opting for a construction with back exposure (BSI), with which more light can be captured and which enables better results with low light shots. The maximum sensitivity is still ISO 409.600 (expandable down to up to ISO 40). The sensor is supported by the new BIONZ-XR processor, which is said to have eight times as much computing power as the previous image processor. Sony is also breaking new ground in operation: For the first time in the Alpha 7 series, a fully moveable monitor (3.0 inches, 1.44 million points) was installed, which now also allows touch operation of the menus. The structure of the menus has also been completely revised; among other things, only the relevant entries are available in photo and video mode for better clarity. The OLED viewfinder achieves a record resolution of 9.44 million points and a magnification of 0.9x. Even glasses wearers have the entire picture in view, the size of the picture can also be reduced.
4K with 120p
One focus of the camera is video recording. Unlike Canon with the EOS R5, Sony does not use 8K for video, but continues to use 4K, which is said to achieve the best results so far with an alpha camera. The sensor’s 12 MP resolution enables a full-pixel readout without pixel binning and without crop up to 4K / 60p. In this setting, the recording limit should be one hour without overheating – the EOS R5 only manages 30 minutes at 4K / 60p. The video recording of the Alpha 7S III in 4K / 120p mode is limited to this length – by the way, a slight crop is used (1.1x).
The monitor can be swiveled, and the handle and controls have become larger, as with other cameras of the third Alpha generation.
With Full HD, the Alpha 7S III even records at up to 240p. For time-lapse recordings, lower frame rates up to 1p can also be selected in S&Q mode. It is recorded internally with a color subsampling of 4: 2: 2 and a color depth of 10 bits. New codecs are available: XAVC-S-I records single images (All-I) with a data rate of up to 500 Mbits / s, XAVC-HS reduces the amount of data in image group compression to 200 Mbit / s thanks to H.265 compression. With HDMI 2.1, the camera can even output 4K / 60p as 16-bit raw files (ProRes Raw) to an Atomos recorder. Of course there is also a logarithmic gamma profile available (S-Log 2/3), which should enable a dynamic range of over 15 f-stops; the sensitivity starts here at ISO 640 (extended: ISO 160). According to Sony, the rolling shutter effect has been significantly minimized. The Alpha 7S III is equipped with a 5-axis image stabilizer in the housing, which, measured according to the CIPA standard, achieves an effectiveness of 5.5 f-stops; In video mode, digital stabilization (active mode) is also used, which also uses a gyro sensor. The information from this gyro sensor can also be stored in the metadata of the videos so that it can be used in post-processing for digital stabilization.
Fast autofocus and 10 frames/s
The hybrid autofocus covers 92% of the image sensor and uses 759 phase detection points and 425 with contrast AF. In addition to human, the AF algorithms now also recognize animal eyes – according to Sony, also at a greater distance than before. The AF sensitivity goes down to -6 EV series, the camera shoots at up to 10 frames / s. The mechanical shutter is designed for 1/8000 s.
Sony is using two memory card drives in the Alpha 7S III for the first time, which can use both SD cards (UHS-II) and the new CFexpress type A cards. They are smaller than Type B cards and faster than SD cards. For most video modes, SD cards of video classes V60 and V90 are sufficient; CFexpress is only required in S&Q mode with 4: 2: 2 color subsampling and 10 bit color depth. The series mode also benefits from the faster cards; 1000 uncompressed raws in a row should be possible here. Sony plans to launch two CFexpress Type A cards on the market in September, which have a write speed of 700 MB / s and a read speed of 800 MB / s: The 80 GB version is said to be 230 euros, the 160 GB version 440 Cost euros and supplies electricity for 600 photos or 95 minutes of video.
A Z battery is used for the power supply, which can be charged via USB-C and power for600 photos or 95 minutes of video. Continuous power supply via USB is also possible.



-新既Bionz-XR處理器,比前代快八倍
-759點PDAF+425點CDAF
-內錄10bit 422
-新反mon
-新menu
-雙cfexpress+uhsii
-IBIS+gyro data防震補償
作者: icecoffee 時間: 2020-7-28 13:00
本帖最後由 icecoffee 於 2020-7-28 13:01 編輯
https://youtu.be/Fbw_JTFMCXo
B&H己有片
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 13:02
去唔到
DUAL Cfe + SD
新Menu
Sony都好聽customers 意見!
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 13:50
回覆 11# KinChungE
吓..你重講梗A7SII,,其實E部機出左幾多年我都唔記得了.
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-28 13:50
回覆 14# goshigoo
好似話係CFExpress Type A?
好似好少見
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 13:55
係呀,1000MB/s
同SD咁既size
所以A7s III,先可以一個slot插晒CFe或SD都得
真係要快有快,要平有平
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 14:00
目前為止, 市面上最新既Sony A7拍片機係A7s II
睇黎師兄冇乜留意拍片人所需
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 14:01
今次好有佛心, 竟然唔用XQD
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-28 14:02
回覆 17# goshigoo
但市面上果D 都係Type B
而D 廠快手出A 先有得用
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-28 14:02
回覆 19# KinChungE
XQD 某程度上同Type B 可能通用, 所以未必係壞事
作者: JLO 時間: 2020-7-28 14:19
暫時是否未有其他機用 CFexpress Type A?
via HKEPC Reader for Android
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 14:31
回覆 18# KinChungE
講梗依家喎.C兄.我諗你真係5會左了.講以前你不如講十年前.
>>>>>>>>>EYE AF,依家都唔係咩新科技了.
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 14:32
起碼Sony會出自己品牌Type A card
其實如果唔需要,可以用住SD Card先
出咗好多leak
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/ ... u-and-camera-ports/
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 14:34
Eye AF響Sony A7s系列黎講係新科技
成個topic都係講A7s, 你拎其他機黎比冇意義, 呢部機唔係一般general purpose人買
請不要off topic
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 14:40
本帖最後由 wingkps2 於 2020-7-28 14:42 編輯
回覆 25# KinChungE
其實我都唔係回你.你唔好咁煩喇.
講你都係唔會買架喇.咁緊張做乜.
同埋你都唔明我想講乜.,個位C兄話.想要EYE AF,我回佢既意思..係EYE AF都唔係新科技..應該會有既.明唔明呀.
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-28 14:58
回覆 24# goshigoo
佢肯定出係好事, 多D 人出會更好, 如果唔係又變返Memory Stick
作者: usei 時間: 2020-7-28 15:03
回覆 24# goshigoo
UHS III 會不會代替到 CFexpress ?
SD 點解設計個時不留空間比未來加速
又要換讀卡機
作者: ten123456789 時間: 2020-7-28 15:07
回覆 9# usei
B&H頭先唔小心出左條片

有比HEIF 同 eye AF
全touch mon, touch AF, 新menu, 新color science
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 15:27
要睇價錢
貴既都係冇人買
睇下UHS-II出左咁耐都未全面普及就知咩事, 今時今日仲有機UHS-II + UHS-I
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 15:48
回覆 usei
B&H頭先唔小心出左條片
有比HEIF 同 eye AF
全touch mon, touch AF, 新menu, 新color ...
ten123456789 發表於 2020-7-28 15:07
而家間間都轉HEIF~~~但影相都係影RAW~~~~
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 15:49
都係架; 但A7s III有得Dual SD or CFe好過SD+CFe
作者: JLO 時間: 2020-7-28 16:52
其實用12MP錄返4K@60而可錄1個鐘唔過熱真係咁勁?
via HKEPC Reader for Android
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 16:54
本帖最後由 goshigoo 於 2020-7-28 16:57 編輯
大家睇吓個review先
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn28JCHBD3o&feature=emb_logo
而家個新menu好似易用咗同好responsive
之前先係度講完話Sony menu唔掂; 佢真係出個新既menu
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 17:13
回覆 34# goshigoo
個新menu同Xperia 1 II嘅Photo Pro好似
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 17:15
本帖最後由 chromechan 於 2020-7-28 18:16 編輯
回覆 33# JLO
同埋我見嗰個review講,Sony聲稱可以做到用CFexpress卡做連續1000幅RAW連拍,不過佢依家無佢哋嗰張CFexpress A,所以試唔到
作者: MirageKnight 時間: 2020-7-28 17:20
如果好用. 希望會port晒去現有形號個D A7, A9機用.
作者: JLO 時間: 2020-7-28 17:44
回復 36 #chromechan
用12MP 又唔奇嘅
via HKEPC Reader for Android
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-28 17:49
回覆 32# goshigoo
咁要睇下佢張Type A 同Type B 係咪同價, 如果A 比B 明顯貴一截既話只係迫你用雙SD
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 18:16
回覆 38# JLO
其實係,唔太難,a9II可以連拍239幅RAW,將呢個數double(因為a7s3嘅resolution係a9ii嘅一半),都係478幅
然後再double多少少,因為Sony張CFexpress type A行800R700W
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 18:26
回覆 JLO
其實係,唔太難,a9II可以連拍239幅RAW,將呢個數double(因為a7s3嘅resolution係a9ii嘅一半), ...
chromechan 發表於 2020-7-28 18:16
其實當A7S III既RAW係每張24MB計
10fps都只係得240MB/sec
點解仲會滿buffer, 而唔係Unlimited burst

作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 19:33
回覆 41# KinChungE
其實係....不過1000幅.......
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 19:41
我覺得主要限制唔係個limit
而係代表佢save唔切, 連拍完要等佢清buffer
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 19:51
回覆 43# KinChungE
同埋根據Sony嘅往績,SD卡嘅速度夠,機嘅速度唔夠,所以要清buffer先得
但真係有人需要1000幅?連拍100秒..........
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 19:54
未清完buffer唔可以放大相睇
通常影完都會放大check focus
雖然我諗冇咩人買A7s III黎連拍用
作者: kachanhk 時間: 2020-7-28 19:55
Sony 應該會出掛?
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 20:01
回覆 46# kachanhk
會呀

800MB/s read
700MB/s write
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 20:04
回覆 45# KinChungE
A7 III可以,我諗A7S3無理由唔得掛
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 20:06
A7s III轉用新Menu / UI
好可能成個software寫過
我估應該冇問題, 但大家都係等review
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 20:07
回覆 49# goshigoo
如果一開始唔得嘅話,我諗應該好多feedback,然後下一個firmware改 XDDD
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 20:39
回覆 44# chromechan
用同吹。兩件事黎
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 20:44
回覆 51# wingkps2
其實係
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 21:05
回覆 52# chromechan
我有時打下雀.R4或6600 連打30張就要清.但我其實未試過打30張,因揀相會揀死.
其實都唔會買.,求其吹下就算喇.有D講到用梗咁樣.不如...影多幾張相好過喇.
紙上談兵總不如實幹來得實在.
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-28 21:14
回覆 47# chromechan
多D 人出先好, 唔係真係又會重演一次Memory Stick
作者: unfairness 時間: 2020-7-28 21:19
新機影星會唔會好似上代咁有hot spot問題
via HKEPC IR Extreme 4.2.3 - iOS(4.0.2)
作者: goshigoo 時間: 2020-7-28 22:11
Initial - Review
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a7s-iii-initial-review
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 22:25
[youtube]HbP-K6dCNSs[/youtube]
作者: ten123456789 時間: 2020-7-28 22:34
本帖最後由 ten123456789 於 2020-7-28 22:36 編輯
回覆 35# chromechan
我覺得似佢大cam個menu

作者: alanchan2010 時間: 2020-7-28 22:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFnrB3fLYPs
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 22:40
本帖最後由 chromechan 於 2020-7-28 22:43 編輯
回覆 58# ten123456789
完全唔似喎
反而1 II嘅Photo Pro似到10足10
[attach]2207922[/attach]

作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 22:43
竟然係backport
以前Sony唔想手機拎左相機D技術
今次相機拎翻手機既UI
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 22:43
回覆 60# chromechan
點會唔似.都係打橫架
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 22:45
回覆 62# wingkps2
橫有好多種
顏色,icon都一個餅印先叫似啦
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 22:46
回覆 63# chromechan
總之就打橫喇.唔係點會有野講.
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 22:46
回覆 61# KinChungE
琴日就已經見到啲討論問係咪SonyMobile個設計師過咗去幫佢哋設計新manual
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 22:47
回覆 61# KinChungE
依家唔係傾好左咩

作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 22:48
回覆 64# wingkps2
衰到你咁霸道
你係咪買
作者: wingkps2 時間: 2020-7-28 22:49
回覆 67# chromechan
我點會買.拍片機黎啵.

作者: ten123456789 時間: 2020-7-28 22:52
回覆 60# chromechan
FS5果個可能無咁似 FS7似D

作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 22:53
點解唔可以樂觀D諗
係Sony相機UI設計師整出黎
不過放落手機試下手溫先
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 22:56
回覆 70# KinChungE
相信唔到
咁多年都殘廢touch,突然之間開竅一定有古怪作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 22:56
回覆 69# ten123456789
似多啲啲咁大把
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 22:57
回覆 68# wingkps2
身痕嘅嘢好難講
講起拍片,可能魚大導有興趣
作者: 必思 時間: 2020-7-28 23:03
唔知佢買咗呢部會唔會後悔呢?
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-28 23:07
回覆 71# chromechan
即係等於人地唔信canon 會擠曬成支牙膏出黎一樣
有競爭有進步係好事呀
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 23:08
回覆 74# 必思
如果係我嘅話,我應該會去a7R4
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 23:10
回覆 75# marcochl
支牙膏跌咗落地再唔小心踩咗一腳 vs 唧多少少嘅牙膏
作者: Eriku 時間: 2020-7-28 23:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFnrB3fLYPs
Preview
作者: 必思 時間: 2020-7-28 23:20
我諗唔到有邊部機岩我,不過枝1224GM幾吸引
作者: chromechan 時間: 2020-7-28 23:22
回覆 79# 必思
我有1224G都想換,不過我冇錢 + 部a7 III用唔盡 + 我有支20F18G
作者: sl110070 時間: 2020-7-28 23:23
回覆 70# KinChungE
photo pro的而且確係出自alpha team,實情就係alpha team搵sony mobile用戶做全球beta test
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-28 23:36
回覆 KinChungE
photo pro的而且確係出自alpha team,實情就係alpha team搵sony mobile用戶做全球beta t ...
sl110070 發表於 2020-7-28 23:23
弱弱退一步問
雖然係Alpha Team, 但係果Team係咪仲係同一班人? 定係搵Mobile team既人過去幫手?
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-28 23:43
回覆 77# chromechan
我冇乜要求, 比R 好我就收貨
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-29 00:34
另外想講sony 痴左邊條線
160gb CF Express -A 賣400 USD
作者: JLO 時間: 2020-7-29 00:39
睇完條官方片, 好似冇講有防塵防水滴……
via HKEPC Reader for Android
作者: calvin83 時間: 2020-7-29 00:43
回復 84 #marcochl
真係拍片搵食, 呢條小數目。
作者: calvin83 時間: 2020-7-29 00:47
回復 85 #JLO
sony機一向唔保證防塵防水滴, 落大雨入水自己負責。
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-29 00:50 標題: RE: Sony A7s III
回覆 86# calvin83
真係拍片搵食160gb 係咪姑寒左d

作者: ten123456789 時間: 2020-7-29 00:58
回覆 88# marcochl
FS7我都係買左兩張128 XQD
仲要係150 write果隻
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-29 01:02 標題: RE: Sony A7s III
回覆 89# ten123456789
用法唔同都真,只不過今時今日得呢個數太浪費機能

(我換r5 都準備買果張512
作者: calvin83 時間: 2020-7-29 01:15
咁外錄啦
作者: kachanhk 時間: 2020-7-29 01:16
香港賣幾多?
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-29 01:17
回覆 91# calvin83
睇review 話可以同時2卡+外錄
今年係相機界驚喜年
作者: kachanhk 時間: 2020-7-29 01:18
講真,就算比我入 R5 都一樣用唔盡機能
作者: ten123456789 時間: 2020-7-29 01:27
回覆 90# marcochl
反正All I我咁耐都係拍過十幾次 得綠幕果陣會用
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2020-7-29 01:30
唔怕啦, 用得CF Express都預左遲D實會有Sandisk/其他牌子
到時起碼平一半
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-29 01:30
回覆 94# kachanhk
用唔盡架,我都係要部r5 去旅下風景相同日常相
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-29 01:31
回覆 92# kachanhk
就咁400 usd x 8 都3200 hkd lu
作者: kachanhk 時間: 2020-7-29 01:40
等師兄出靚相
作者: marcochl 時間: 2020-7-29 01:44
回覆 99# kachanhk
冇得飛已經冇曬mood

